14B.7.7 Restart After A Goal: Team will not cross the center line
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In a fun tournament in the last 2 minutes we have had the situation that after a goal a team will not cross the center line after the referee has whistled due to not to risk getting an additional goal, the current result is good for this team.
From this joke a small serious discussion started on what the referee can do and two problems are worked out.
1. Referee punishes the player for intentional delaying the game with a sent off for 2 minutes who was in last possession of the ball.
a. But what if no player touches the ball?
b. By several send off the team would have less than 3 player to play?
2. How should the game restarted if a team was punished due to delaying the game?
a. The offending team has a reputation to restart the game, probably again and again.
b. The offending team will loose this advantage and the opposing team will get a free shot from the place of the violation was done (somewhere in the other half of the field, the free shot could be as well a corner shot).
c. The offending team loose the advantage the game restarts with a face off at the center mark.
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I penalised a team at our recent B finals for delay after restart. They had taken too long across 4 restarts, not on purpose, but because they were discussing tactics. I had warned them so finally penalised them. I didn't send anyone off as it was not purposeful but careless.
I played the penalty from the middle of the court, where the faceoff normally occurs to start the half. The ball was given to the non offending team and the game started as per a usual penalty. I don't think the free shot should be given in the other end of the field.
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I think playing a free shot from the middle should be the way to do it. Other times I've experienced refs give the ball to the other team to start the game on foul. Free shot from the middle makes it clear there was an offence.
I don't think it's necessary to give a 2 minute for delayed start penalty since
1) all players are equally responsible. Each player could have moved across the center line to start a game; and
2) it seems a bit harsh for something that's pretty benign; and
3) we've already discussed stopping the time at intentional delay by shooting the ball outside the court. This seems like a similar situation.
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Yes, I would like to referee similar on first time of delaying, only penalise with a free shot against the offending team. For the moment the rule says that the team gets the free shot from the place of the violation was done. > Current rule! As act of justice it would be better to give a free shot from the center mark (I recognize that you dislike in this situation a face off at the center mark, the disadvantage for the offending team would be not hard enough. But again, th is act of justice would be against the rules.
If we like to give a free shot in this situation we probably have to add a further exception in 14.B.6.1 or should we leave it in referees decision as Steven did? ( I remember myself not to fabricate more rules as necessary.)
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If referees would make the same decision I would make instinctively (to play the penalty from the middle of the court) then I think don't put anything in the rules. If you think that you would rule something different then we can look at improving the wording.
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"Instinctively" you may be right, but this one of this problem.
"To resume the game without penalizing one of the teams, a face-off can be used." (14B.6.4) But in this case we would like to penalize the offending team for delaying.
Marcus: "Free shot from the middle makes it clear there was an offence."
Now some time gone to think about to add a further exception in 14.B.6.1 might be not the best solution. At this moment I would prefer
to add this further free shot exception in 14.B.7. :
"After a goal, the non-scoring team gets the ball. All players must go to their own half. After the Referee’s whistle, the game resumes when the ball or a player of the team in possession crosses the center line. If the non-scoring team delays the restart the advantage will change and the scoring team restarts the game with a free shot from the center mark. It is legal to directly shoot a goal after passing the center line, for example without passing the ball to another player first."
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I would probably word it something like this
"After a goal, the non-scoring team gets the ball. All players must go to their own half. After the Referee’s whistle, the game resumes when the ball or a player of the team in possession crosses the center line. If a delay of game penalty is given against the non-scoring team during the restart, the penalty will be given from the center mark. It is legal to directly shoot a goal after passing the center line, for example without passing the ball to another player first."
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In this case your English wording might be better and sounds more professional but for non-native speakers it will be a little bit difficult to understand what should happen. Some other opinions?
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If a delay of game penalty is given against the non-scoring team during the restart, the penalty will be given from the center mark.
Reasons for wording:
"Delay of game penalty" = the name of the penalty. So delay of game penalty is just saying which penalty is being enforced in this instance
"is given against the non-scoring team during the restart" = stipulating that a delay of game at the restart will result in a penalty from the center mark when it is against the team who is playing the restart.
If the team who just scored is delaying the game (by returning to their half too slowly) a penalty from the middle is probably less of an advantage than letting the team with the ball start normally.
I felt this was the most direct succinct way to describe it but happy to try again if you let me know which bits are hard to understand.
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Your mentioned option "If the team who just scored is delaying the game (by returning to their half too slowly) a penalty from the middle is probably less of an advantage than letting the team with the ball start normally." I haven't thought about, good point.
For the moment it is only a new idea: "In all cases a delay of game penalty is given, instead of from the known or unknown point where the violation was done, all penalties will be given from the center mark." Easy to referee, no discussion by whom and where the violation was done. If we like to do so this would be an additional exception and should go logically under 14B.6.1 Free Shot.
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I was never in the situation where I had to punish a team for intentional delay. But I think I would have done it the same way as Steven.
I would also give a free shot from the center mark, when the scoring team takes too much time (and also stop the timer). In this case all players from the other team can already enter the other half of the field and do not loose time on that. Therefore I think we can generalize the rule and do not say against whom the penalty is given.
I think in all other situations where delay of game takes place apart from restart, it is clear where the free shot is executed (since only if the game is interrupted delay of the game can take place and in those situations the place is well known). At the moment I cannot think of any other situation where the free shot is not done from the place where the violation of the rules was done.
I can agree with adding one sentence. I can understand that you found it difficult to understand Steven's sentence Herbert. At the first time I had some difficulties too. Maybe its sufficient to rearrange the sentence:
If during (the?) restart (after a goal?) a delay of game penalty is given against the non-scoring team, the penalty will be given from the center mark.
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The free shot is also not given from the place of the violation in the goal zone, so it might make sense to combine those in the rulebook. Something like this:
A free shot should be played at the initial point of the violation, unless:
1) It's in the goal zone, in which case the corners are used
2) It's related to intentional delay when restarting the game, in which case the free shot is shot from the centerline
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"A free shot should be played at the initial point of the violation, unless: 1) It's in the goal zone, in which case the corners are used" I think this is already covered with " Exceptions: If a team gets a free shot within the opponents’ goal area, the free shot is executed at the closest corner mark (corner shot)."
@Nicolai:"I think in all other situations where delay of game takes place apart from restart, it is clear where the free shot is executed." "All other situations" please give me examples what are you think about. (I thought that we declared other kinds of delays as legal, may be not so fair as from everybody expected, because the opposing team has the chance to attack.
Nicolai, your sentence as "If during the restart after a goal a delay of game penalty is given against the non-scoring team, the penalty will be given from the center mark." would cover my idea.
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@Herbert: I thought of situations when the team having a free shot does not execute this free shot.
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If during the restart after a goal a delay of game penalty is given, the penalty will be given from the center mark.
I like this
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Nicolai you are right with your situation, this location is known, this is not a restart.
I think about easy/easier refereeing if we give a free shot for penalty from the center mark in all kinds of delay of game. "Delay of game" was a problem how to handle it by rule and referee. I agree with, this would be totally new:
"In all cases a delay of game penalty is given, the penalty will be given from the center mark."
In sections 14B.7.7 or 14B.6.1 the sentence is not good, I suggest to use 14B.6.
Old 14B.6 Penalties
In every instance of a violation of the rules the Referee must penalize the offending team, unless the Referee decides not to interrupt the game (advantage).
New 14B.6 Penalties
In every instance of a violation of the rules the Referee must penalize the offending team, unless the Referee decides not to interrupt the game (advantage). In all cases a delay of game penalty is given, the penalty will be given from the center mark.
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Thanks Herbert for highlighting this again. After reading all the comments, I agree the rule change is needed and I also really like Herbert's most recent suggestion!:
Old 14B.6 Penalties
In every instance of a violation of the rules the Referee must penalize the offending team, unless the Referee decides not to interrupt the game (advantage).
New 14B.6 Penalties
In every instance of a violation of the rules the Referee must penalize the offending team, unless the Referee decides not to interrupt the game (advantage). In all cases a delay of game penalty is given, the penalty will be given from the center mark.
I think this covers everything in the most simplest way.
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Is the time ripe for proposal?