Face Off 2 - Whistle to start game in faceoffs. (Closed for comments)
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Comment by Herrmann, Herbert 14 minutes ago
14B.6.4 Face-off is telling us: "...Play starts when the ball touches the ground. ..." > Without whistle! (???)
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14B.7.6 Start and Stop is telling us: "Starting and resuming the game is always initiated by the Referee’s whistle. ..."
What was my and other referees behaviour? All other referees and myself we whistled when the ball touched the ground.
Now my question, what is your behaviour and is there probably a need to clarify the rule?
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I 100% agree with this. In Australia we do not blow the whistle at all for a faceoff as the faceoff instructions say play starts when the ball touches the ground. The timerkeeper starts play when they see the ball dropped similar to ice hockey.
The european players at UNICON said you have to blow the whistle (when the ball touches the ground) which in line with 14B.7.6 resuming a game is always initiated by the whistle, makes sense.
In ice hockey the whistle is blown to signal that play will start in >5 seconds. Play actually starts as the referee drops the puck, with no whistle as a marker.
So we need less confusing wording here because currently there are 3 ways to interpret this.
1. No whistle is needed for faceoff as the ball dropping marks the start of time.
2.a) Resuming the game is initiated by a whistle (similar to ice hockey) but the whistle is before the ball is dropped to say that the ball will soon be dropped and time starts when the whistle is blown
2.b) Resuming the game is initiated by a whistle (similar to ice hockey) but the whistle is before the ball is dropped to say that the ball will soon be dropped and time starts either when the ball hits the ground (and play begins according to face off rules)
3. The referee has to whistle in synchronization as the ball touches the ground and THIS signals play to start.
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"In ice hockey the whistle is blown to signal that play will start in >5 seconds." This gives me an idea of a kind of warning order to the timer.
I prefer to keep it simple and stick to the general rule (14B.7.6) that all starts and stops (with only one assumption that a period can be ended by the sound of the score board) are initiated by the Referee’s whistle. I suggest to app some words in 14B.6.4.
Old:
"...Play starts when the ball touches the ground. ..."
New:"...Play starts when the ball touches the ground and the referee blows the whistle. ..."
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My bad translation > using wrong words here without meaning, please delete "assumption" and write "exception" > "(with only one exception...)" and exchange "... to app ..." for "...to add ...".
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I agree we should include this. I know there can sometimes be confusion at Unicon's when those who do not usually blow the whistle after plays starts can sometimes think that play has been stopped by the whistle.
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ok this can be made into proposal I think
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I have added this in the other face off proposal.